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pkent
Joined: 26 Feb 2013 Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 15:52 Post subject: Use of different octanes in flight |
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I have just read the following which surprised me :
"...from 1933 to 1937 airlines used 87 octane only to boost take-off power and 80 octane for cruising. By 1937 87 was used for cruising and 90 for take-off."
Q. Can anyone expand on this dual-fuel use? Thank you. |
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sithomas
Joined: 01 Jan 2019 Posts: 28
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 08:12 Post subject: |
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I understand Amelia Earhart also used different octane fuels on her round the world flight. The concept is to get full power for high weight take offs using the higher octane fuel, and then switch to the tanks with lower octane for lower power cruising. The higher octane fuel availability was an issue at some locations, but also the cost delta of the fuels played a part.
I believe that some current light planes with mogas STCs do the same thing - they use avgas for take off and climb, and use mogas for cruise. In this case, an additional driver is the vapour pressure of the avgas can prevent the engine missing due to vapour problems during the climb. |
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jschauer
Joined: 19 May 2004 Posts: 93 Location: Justin, Texas
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 15:10 Post subject: |
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You are misunderstanding the octane rating. Avgas grade 80/87 was 80 octane. When used for takeoff an over-rich mixture was produced by the carburetor and the fuel had an equivalent rating of 87 octane. 100/130 had the equivalent octane rating of 130 when the carburetor was in AUTO-RICH. Todays 100LL has the equivalent rating of 130 octane when used in AUTO-RICH. |
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rinkol
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 40
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 16:11 Post subject: |
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FWIW I've seen claims that certain German engines, specifically the BMW 132H and Bramo 323R, could use 100 or 96 octane fuel for extra power on takeoff. This capability was supposedly used on large aircraft such as the FW 200 and Ju 352. |
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dpennings
Joined: 10 Dec 2016 Posts: 48
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 13:06 Post subject: |
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Germany had always a shortage of high Octane fuel during the war, I guess this solution was used by German planes but not by the Allies. |
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